Fifth Harmony (+ unreleased tracker/ master post)

reflection · February 13, 2021

Fifth Harmony Unreleased Infopost

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Anything Could Happen - A studio recording of a song they performed on X-Factor. It is unknown if this was at any point intended for Better Together EP specifically. Leaked in LQ by leaks5h. Producers: N/A // Writers: Ellie Goulding, Jim Elliot. Demo | 1 |

Better Days - From the same session as ‘No Boys Allowed’. It was registered on GEMA. Producers: Toby Gad // Writers: Ali Tamposi, Fifth Harmony. Demo | 1 |

Drown On Solid Ground (a.k.a. Solid Ground) - First teased by the producer Mark J Feist on twitter 2014, describing the song as 'mid-up tempo and the beat is crazy' Full demo leaked. Composers: Mark J Feist, Fifth Harmony, Marlin Bonds, James Moore Lopez, Ben Reed. Demo | 1 |

Magic - According to Warner Chappell Music, the song is from 2013. The songs performer is registered as ‘Madison Beer’, suggesting she may have been handed the song. All 5 girls have writing credits on the song. Writers: Sean Maxwell, Fifth Harmony, Tom Meredith. Demo | 1 |

Me & My Girls (Demo) - A snippet was posted by dinah on twitter. Producers: Julian Bunetta, PJ Blanco, Dozier, Ilya, Salmanzadeh // Writers: Fifth Harmony, Julian Bunetta, Dozier, John Ryan, PJ Blanco. Demo | 1 |

No Boys Allowed - A snippet was leaked by leaks5h. A different version leaked in full in 2022. From the same session as ‘Better Days’. It was registered on GEMA. Producers: Toby Gad // Writers: Ali Tamposi, Fifth Harmony. Demo | 1 | 2 |

One Heart - Registered on APRA. Shares writers with Who Are You. Writers demo leaked. Composers: PJ Bianco, Nasri. Demo | 1 |

One Of These Days (a.k.a. OOTD, American Crime) - Recordings of performances by the songwriter 'Nova Rockafeller' are on YouTube. Guess here is 'Better Together' due to its electro pop rock sound, although unconfirmed and appeared on registration in 2015. Nova started performing her version of the song throughout early 2015. E Kidd Bogart released 'Big Bad Wolf' with Fifth Harmony during 7/27 era. Composers: E. Kidd Bogart, Dilesh Haria, James Robert McCall, Spencer Nezey, Gregory Abraham, Nova Rockafeller. Demo | 1 |

Talk To Me - A snippet was leaked by leaks5h. Same session as One Wish. It may have been intended for release due to its huge amount of international publishers listed on GEMA, matched only by other released songs of the era. Composers: Michael Biancaniello, Louis Biancaniello, Clarence Coffee Jr, Monsters & Strangerz, Marcus Lomax, Sam Watters. Demo | 1 |

Tellin' Me - performed across 5 tours yet lacks a release or studio leak. However ally brookes friend onairjake, who leaked all studio snippets in 2015, has the full demo and has promised to leak it in full one day. The song was confirmed by Dinah to supposed to be released for ‘Reflection’, however it was scrapped due to the direction of the record being changed. Currently we know of two mixes, one where Camila leads the chorus (Dinah posted on twitter) and one where Ally leads the chorus (The one onairjake has). On live versions of the song, Dinah sings the first verse instead of Lauren. Composers: Johan Carlsson, Jeff Halavacs, Jacob Kasher, Crista Russo, Phil Shaouy, Matt Squire. Demo | 1 | 2 | 3 |

Try Everything - Released by Shakira. They confirmed in a interview they demoed it. Recorded in 2013. Fifth Harmony met Sia in September 2013. Writers: Sia, Stargate // Producers: Stargate. Demo | 1 |

Young & Beautiful - Recorded in 2013. The full song leaked in 2016. The Aimée Proal (a writer) demo also leaked. Composers: Björn Filip Olovsson, Joakim Mårtem Olovsson, Aimée Proal, Andreas Westerlund. Demo | 1 |

Young and Dumb - Registered alongside other Better Together songs. Composers: Abram Dean, Marissa Maupin, Mark Pellizzer. Demo | 1 |

Boyfriend (a.k.a. Boyfriend Boyfriend)- A song recorded during 'Reflection' sessions. A minute snippet of this song was leaked. It was being sold years ago alongside the writers demo for 'Who Can I Run To' but this never surfaced in full. This song appeared on an alleged reflection draft tracklist as track 10 from Dinah's iCloud as 'Boyfriend Boyfriend'. Producers: N/A // Known Writers: N/A. Demo | 1 |

Change the Bad Boy - A song recorded during 'Reflection' sessions. Leaked in LQ by leaks5h. Producers: N/A // Known Writers: N/A Demo | 1 |

Double Vision - Snippet leaked by leaks5h. Released by Prince Royce & Tyga. Composers: Jason Evigan, Ross Golan, Ammar Malik, Jacob Kasher Hindlin, Michael Stevenson.

Say Goodbye (a.k.a. Goodbye) - A song recorded during 'Reflection' sessions. A low quality recording was leaked. Dinah posted a video of her singing the song on her snapchat. This song appeared on an alleged reflection draft tracklist as track 15 from Dinah's iCloud as 'Say Goodbye' along with a snippet. This, and other songs from the tracklist leaked in full a year later from leaks5h. There is a registration of a title 'Say Goodbye' featuring credits from Victoria and Tommy. Most likely the same song. Composers: Tommy Brown, Victoria Monet, Maurice Wade, Roahn Hylton Demo | 1 |

High Five - Recorded in 2014. Composers: Stargate.

I Almost Loved You - According to leaks5h, this was supposed to be a google play deluxe exclusive bonus track, however this was later replaced with 'Dame Esta Noche' and 'I'm In Love with a Monster'. There is a registration of a song of the same name with credits - Tayla Parx (Bo$$, Boyfriend, Brave Honest Beautiful), Julia Michaels (little 2 Much, Miss Movin On) and Jacob Kasher (Bo$$, Double vision) - with Tayla Parx and Jacob Kasher specifically having multiple reported studio sessions booked with Fifth Harmony during Reflection era. However it is unconfirmed these are the same songs.

Too Much (a.k.a. Little 2 Much, Little Too Much) - Unknown if this is a Fifth Harmony demo or solo Camila Cabello demo (although Fifth Harmony did record solo versions of each song before producers & executives made their own mix out of their recording sessions). A minute snippet was leaked by leaks5h. Julia Michaels demo leaked in full as 'Little 2 Much'. This song appeared on an alleged reflection draft tracklist as track 6 from Dinah's iCloud as 'Little Too Much'. Producers: Jason Evigan // Writers: Julia Michaels Demo | 1 |

My Selfish Heart (feat. Meghan Trainor) - Registered on APRA. Released by Meghan Trainor on her own album 'Title' later in 2015. Composers: Meghan Trainor. Demo | 1 |

No Catching Feelings - A song recorded potentially during early 'Reflection' sessions. A low quality recording was leaked by leaks5h. This was polled between 'The Way You Look' and 'Too Much' to be leaked in full. Producers: N/A // Known Writers: N/A. Demo | 1 |

No Filter - A song recorded during 'Reflection' sessions. Leaked in LQ by leaks5h. This song appeared on an alleged reflection draft tracklist as track 4 from Dinah's iCloud. Composers: Unknown. Demo | 1 |

No Way (Demo) - Confirmed by Fifth Harmony in a interview as a song initially recorded during Reflection sessions passed onto to their new album, it was added onto the deluxe version of 7/27. A snippet of the original demo featuring unreleased vocals by Camila in the prechorus was leaked in low quality by leaks5h. This song appeared on an alleged reflection draft tracklist as track 5 from Dinah's iCloud. According to leaks5h, this was supposed to be a google play deluxe exclusive bonus track, however this was later replaced with 'Dame Esta Noche' and 'I'm In Love with a Monster'. Demo | 1 |

Over - A song recorded during early 'Reflection' sessions. Performed on Tour alongside 'We Know', 'Going Nowhere', 'Them Girls Be Like', 'BO$$', 'Reflection'. Dinah sings the second pre-chorus with Lauren rather than Camila in the studio. Studio version leaked in LQ by leaks5h. It was eventually cut from the album. Producers: T.Collar // Writers: Kat Nestel // Composers: Mike Molina, Nelson Kyle. Demo | 1 |

Radar - This song appeared on an alleged reflection draft tracklist as track 7 from Dinah's iCloud. Demo | 1 |

Sensitive - A song recorded during 'Reflection' sessions. Leaked in LQ by leaks5h. Producers: N/A // Known Writers: Victoria Monet. Demo | 1 |

Single - This song appeared on an alleged reflection draft tracklist as track 9 from Dinah's iCloud. Demo | 1 |

You Gave Me Love - Snippet of a unofficial mix leaked 2021. Released by Macy Kate. Composers: Meghan Trainor, Mike Krompass, Andrew Fromm. Demo | 1 |

The Way You Look (a.k.a. The Way You Look At Her) - A snippet was leaked by leaks5h. The song is registered on ASCAP as 'The Way You Look At Her'. Composers: Ruth-Anne Cummingham, Julian Bunetta. Demo | 1 |

This Ain't a Love Song - This song appeared on an alleged reflection draft tracklist as track 8 from Dinah's iCloud. Demo | 1 |

Walkashame - Ally spoke of the original lead single of reflection in her book. "We had some serious questions about the song's theme, which was about a girl's walk of shame, home from a drunken one-night stand. Again, most of the girls in our group were still pretty young". Half a year after reflection sessions had concluded, Meghan Trainor released a song called 'Walkashame' as part of her album 'Title'. According to leaks5h, Lauren sings the chorus. Demo | 1 |

Who Can I Run To? - A song recorded during 'Reflection' sessions. Confirmed to be produced by Hitmaka in a interview when this song was asked about. Although they confirmed they recorded a version of the song, and sang the chorus in an interview, the studio snippets that leaked were not them, probably Tayla Parx. It was brought up again during 5H3 era and Lauren said they may re-record it for their new album. In 2020 a snippet of the studio instrumental leaked. This song appeared on an alleged reflection draft tracklist as track 11 from Dinah's iCloud. Producers: Hitmaka // Known Writers: N/A. Demo | 1 |

All Again - Reportedly recorded in 2015. Meghan Trainor's demo was recorded in 2013 for her debut album 'Title', but was ultimately handed to Fifth Harmony to record as she was enlisted as a writer for Fifth Harmony. The song was obtained by MusicMafia, before being sold and eventually leaked. Later, two snippets of Meghan Trainor's demo leaked. Another demo leaked featuring new distribution alongside a instrumental in 2021. Composers: The El3ven, Meghan Trainor. Demo | 1 | 2 |

Come Get It - Recorded in 2015 during the two week Max Martin writing camp. Composers: Mitch Allan, Sean Douglas, Marco Borrero, John Brahat.

Come Get It (feat. Jennifer Lopez) - Snippet leaked on leakth.is. Features different distribution. Composers: Mitch Allan, Sean Douglas, Marco Borrero, John Brahat.

Best U Never Had - Registered mid 2015. Welsh DJ Jamie Jones is credited as a composer. Writers demo leaked. Composers: Justin Grey, Jamie Jones, Jack Kugell.

Fools Like Us - Registered on BMI and Warner Chappell during 7/27 era. Justin Tranter spoke on recording this song with the girls in a Spin article - "...This song that we just did last week, I was actually there when they cut it and these voices. I mean, these girls are destroyers." Composers: Oscar Holter, OZGO, Justin Tranter.

Girls Like Us - Recorded in 2016, later released to girl group TWICE. Composers: Charli XCX, MNEK, Dimitri Tikovoi, Maya Von Doll.

Monies (feat. Tory Lanez) - A song recorded by Fifth Harmony during '7/27' sessions. Similarly to 'Scared of Happy' and 'The Life', Monies is a song written by Tinashe and produced by StarGate. Fifth Harmony's demo leaked in full. Tinashe's pitch demo leaked along with Fifth Harmony's full demo featuring vocals from Tory Lanez. Known Producers: StarGate // Known Writers: Tinashe. Demo | 1 |

Ladder - Leaked in LQ by leaks5h. Producers: N/A // Known Writers: N/A. Demo | 1 |

Tinderella - In November 2015, it was revealed by Ally Brooke that Fifth Harmony were back in studio with Meghan Trainor for 7/27. None of the songs from these sessions leaked, however we do know one of the songs was named 'Tinderella', revealed in the same interview as having 'great production' and 'clever lyrics'. Producers: N/A // Known Writers: Meghan Trainor.

Better With You (with Captain Cuts) - A song recorded during 'Fifth Harmony' sessions. Intended to be released as a duo single between Fifth Harmony and Captain Cuts sometime during 5H3 era according to registration on BMI. This was ultimately scrapped. The full demo leaked in 2020. A snippet of a reworked version by Jason Derulo was leaked in 2019. It was confirmed by insider BOZ that the song was sold to PCD. Composers: Captain Cuts, Sam Martin, Nataliya Phillips. Demo | 1 |

Down (Spanish Version) - Performed at KCA Mexico. Although a studio version exists and can be heard in the backtrack, this was never released.

Feel So Right - A song recorded during 'Fifth Harmony' sessions. The song leaked in full. Leaked by leaks5h in LQ. Producers: N/A // Writers: N/A Demo | 1 |

Por Favor (Demo) [Pitbull feat. Fifth Harmony] - A demo version of Por Favor was played by a radio station weeks before the song was released. Almost full recordings of this were leaked. It features only Lauren singing lead vocals, as opposed to the released version and much quieter adlibs from Ally. Demo | 1 |

PSA - A song recorded during 'Fifth Harmony' sessions. It leaked alongside 'Feel So Right'. Although being a rough demo, they named their forthcoming tour 'PSA Tour' after this song, and interpolated parts of this song into the tours intro. Leaked via SoundCloud. Producers: N/A // Writers: N/A Demo | 1 |

Love Me (Mi Amor) [Pitbull feat. J Coles & Fifth Harmony] - a pitch demo where Pitbull can be heard saying 'Fifth Harmony' leaked tagged with gay porn. Although fifth harmony doesn't sing on the leaked demo, there are female voices on the track to be where Fifth Harmony would sing. it is unknown if Fifth Harmony recorded a version of this.

Weekday - Allegedly recorded by Fifth Harmony. Demos from 'MØ' and 'Tinashe' have leaked. Produced by StarGate.

Ya Gameel - Registered on APRA. Translates as 'Oh Beautiful' in English. I really think this is a registration error for 'You Gave Me Love'. Composers: Meghan Trainor.

Don't Talk About Love - Released by G.R.L. in 2014. As this song has the same credits as 'Miss Movin' On', there is a fair chance its from the same Fifth Harmony pitching session. This is unconfirmed.

Just Like You - A demo by tinashe leaked. this is very likely to be a fifth harmony pitch. all of the personnel were hired to work on 7/27. - stargate - weekday, monies, the life, scared of happy, aimh, squeeze | tinashe - weekday, monies, the life, scared of happy | julia michaels - dope, aimh | justin tranter - dope, fools like us | bloodpop - scared of happy

Uptown Funk (feat. Jasmine V., Jacob Whitesides & Mahogany Lox) - Studio cover released in promotion of 'The Reflection Tour' in collaboration with the opening acts.

Left Swipe Dat - A now unreleased song recorded by many YouTubers + Becky G with vocals from Fifth Harmony. It is still unknown why this mess even exists.

Anything is Possible - Recorded for a commercial released in 2014.

Rock Your Candies - Recorded for a commercial released in 2014.

Alternative Mixes

The Life (Writer's Demo) - A demo of Tinashe's original version of the song has surfaced online.

Work From Home (Writer's Demo) - Writers demo by Jude Demorest leaked in 2021.

You Gave Me Love (Writer's Demo) - Writers demo by Meghan Trainor remains unleaked

All Again (Writer's Demo) - Writers demo by Meghan Trainor remains unleaked

Sledgehammer (Writer's Demo) - Writers demo by Meghan Trainor remains unleaked

Suga Mama (Writer's Demo) - Writers demo by Meghan Trainor remains unleaked

Boyfriend (Writer's Demo) - A snippet of the writers demo, allegedly by Tayla Parx, was played by hitmaka. Fifth Harmony recorded the song.

Who Can I Run To (Writer's Demo) - A snippet of the writers demo, allegedly by Tayla Parx, was played by hitmaka. Fifth Harmony recorded the song.

Unknown Song 1 (a.k.a. What More Could You Ask For?) - A snippet of the writers demo, was played by hitmaka.

That's My Girl (Acoustic) - A song recorded by Fifth Harmony during '7/27' sessions. A acoustic version remixed by CCMC features unreleased demo vocals from the recording session including different lyrics, different distribution and vocal takes not found in the released version. Known Producers: [to be added] // Known Writers: [to be added].

Scared Of Happy (Writer's Demo) (a.k.a. 'Fearless') - Two demos of Tinashe's original version of the song have surfaced online, one featuring a different drop while one more resembling Fifth Harmony's final version.

All In My Head (Flex) [No Rap] - A song recorded by Fifth Harmony during '7/27' sessions. A mix of this version of the song was serviced to radio stations. The original file leaked.

Work From Home (No Rap) - A song recorded by Fifth Harmony during '7/27' sessions. A mix of this version of the song was serviced to radio stations. The original file leaked. Producers: [to be added] // Writers: [to be added].

Down (No Rap) - A mix of this version of the song was serviced to radio stations. The original file leaked.

Exclusive Bonus Tracks

Worth It (No Rap) - A song recorded during early 'Reflection' sessions. Official mix without Kid Ink released only in the UK. This was later added as a UK bonus track to 7/27. The song is unreleased elsewhere. Demo | 1 |

Me & My Girls - Although released as a single, the song lacks a proper release. It is only available on iTunes (outside of the U.K.) and Japanese editions of reflection. It is also not on any physical or otherwise digital editions of Better Together.

Big Bad Wolf - A song recorded by Fifth Harmony during '7/27' sessions. Japan exclusive bonus track. The song is unreleased in all other formats.

Voicemail - A song recorded by Fifth Harmony during '7/27' sessions. Camila sang a snippet of this song in a interview months before it was released on Napster exclusively as a bonus track. The song is unreleased in all other formats.

1000 Hands - A song recorded by Fifth Harmony during '7/27' sessions. Japan exclusive bonus track. The song is unreleased in all other formats. Originally the song was a collaboration between Poo Bear and Georgia Ku, however was supplemented as a piano ballad when handed to Fifth Harmony. The song along with 'The Life' are the two Fifth Harmony songs never performed.

One Wish - Target bonus track on physical copies of Better Together. Performed many times. Same session as Talk To Me. Composers: Michael Biancaniello, Louis Biancaniello, Clarence Coffee Jr, Monsters & Strangerz, Marcus Lomax, Sam Watters. Demo | 1 |

Fake / Pitches

Bitchology - Alleged pitch demo.

If These Walls Could Talk - Alleged pitch demo sang by Nikki Flores.

Make Love Commandments - Alleged pitch demo sang by Good Girl.

Awhile - Alleged pitch demo sang by Good Girl.

Say What You Want - Alleged pitch demo sang by Good Girl.

You Take Me to Heaven - False registration, the 'producer' has no released songs under his name yet has registered outtakes for Selena Gomez, Rihanna and more

A Beautiful Day - False registration, the 'producer' has no released songs under his name yet has registered outtakes for Selena Gomez, Rihanna and more

Warrior - Allegedly a song intended for Better Together but zero confirmation or recordings outside of this forum post. Demo | 1 |

Information, personnel, sources & timeline

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Better Together

Scrapped debut album + single rollout - 10/09/13: Debut album is expected around December according to Vice President of Epic with a tour December/Early January. They want to give the girls a legit shot at a Top 3 debut with their album and just need a little more time. A new single will be released soon which will either be "Who Are You" or "Better Together". #4

Alleged scrapped song - 15/10/13: I wonder what happened to Warrior. I happened to see them live opening for Cher Lloyd and I thought that was their best moment. Pretty sure they said it was an original planned to be on the EP. #24

Fifth harmony in studio with Miley Cyrus's producers, Better together single scrapped - 23/12/13 It appears there's been a change of plans for the girls. Better Together (song) isn't going to be sent to radio it appears atm. The girls are going back into the studio to record new songs with new producers (Miley's producers have been confirmed). #114

Toby Gad sessions mentioned in December 2013 - Later found out to be the songs 'No Boys Allowed' and 'Better Days', written with Ali Tamposi.

Fifth Harmony have had 22 finished songs by January 2014 - 12/01/14 One of the girls' parents said they have 22 songs fully finished and that a huge surprise is coming after their tour with Demi. #117

Better Together sound does not seem to have been scrapped just yet by January 2014 - More sessions with Better Together executive producer - 17/01/14: Julian Bunetta (Better Together Executive Producer) tweeted he is waiting on the girls to arrive back in LA to begin recording. #119

Reflection

Appears Fifth Harmony's sound direction is shifting towards what would turn into 'Reflection' by February 2014, a more mature and darker sound, hinted by sessions booked with Hitmaka and Tayla Parx between January 27th and 30th

Further sessions booked with The Rascals (Ariana Grande - Yours Truly) hinting at a more soulful r&b sound to become a staple of 'Reflection' era [eventually shelved] - 13/02/14: They're soon to hit the studio with The Rascals (Ariana Grande's Honeymoon Avenue). So I'm glad to see them finally heading in the correct direction. #133

Fifth Harmony working on the song Reflection in April 2014

Fifth Harmony perform new songs from Reflection in April 2014. All originals were released and maintained on the tracklist until February 2015 apart from 'Over' - 26/07/14: Setlist: 3. Reflection, 4. New song -Going Nowhere, 5. We Know, 6. New song- Over, 7. BO$$ #449

Fifth Harmony has more sessions with BO$$ crew in July 2014 [shelved] - 18/07/14: The girls are currently back in the studio with Jacob Kasher, Tayla Parx and Ricky Reed(Wallpaper) #402

According to Wikipedia, Reflection was recorded between March 2014 and August 2014 - Though Fifth Harmony still had many recording sessions in studio for the album after August 2014 up until December 2014, including many delays for the album eventually released February 2015, for some reason it appears all (known) sessions after August 2014 were scrapped.

Fifth Harmony in studio again with Tommy and Victoria September 2014 (Note: this could be the song 'A Dream' which shares the same credits as We Know) [eventually shelved] - 19/09/14: They are back in the studio again with Tommy and Victoria who are responsible for We Know #577

Fifth Harmony in studio with J.R. Rotem and Eric Hudson October 2014 [eventually shelved] - 07/10/14: - The girls were in the studio with J.R Rotem and Eric Hudson #592

Lauren mentions 'No Way', 2 years before its release! - 9/12/14: Lauren mentioned in an interview that they recorded a song called ’No Way' and it's a mid-tempo that manages to showcase their vocals very well. #914

Fifth Harmony in studio with Diane Warren [shelved] -18/12/14: The girls were in the recording studio last night with Diane Warren. #983

7/27

DJ Flict reveals he is working with Fifth Harmony February 2015

With the first mention of new recording sessions in 6 months, it seems 7/27 started off looking a lot like Reflection [shelved]- 03/05/15: So the girls(Mainly Normani and Dinah) are with Taylor Parks and Harmony Samuels. Looks like they're already starting on 5H2! #2009

Harmony Samuels talks working with Fifth Harmony - 25/08/15: Are you also working with them on other material? Yes! I just started working with them last week for their new album. It’s really different. It’s really fresh. They’ve definitely grown. It’s a little bit more soulful, a little bit more quirky, definitely a little bit more Destiny’s Child-esque, you know what I’m saying? You’re going to hear more of their voices as individuals.

Fifth Harmony in studio with Harmony Samuels and The Rascals again [shelved] - 01/10/15: The girls are back in studio and i'm very excited. last night they were working with Harmony Samuels and The Rascals who produced most of Ariana's Yours Truly album, which was a gem!! Harmony also produced IILWAM. #2783

Fifth Harmony in studio with Meghan Trainor and DJ Flict - 1/10/15: Disappointed that the girls are working with DJ flict and Meghan Trainor for 5h2. #2788

Ally Brooke talks in November 2015 about new sessions with Meghan Trainor, including a new song 'Tinderella'.

In a Billboard article, Lauren talks aspects of their current sonical focus - 02/10/15: Lauren said they've recorded some dope songs with horns, however, as a group they have decide to also focus a bit more on some slow, soulful songs,(destiny's child vibe) and mature lyrics. #2803

In the same article, Lauren Jauregui mentions working with Max Martin

In a turning point for the era, it is revealed Fifth Harmony are working with Max Martin! [shelved] - 02/10/15: The girls are working with Max Martin! #2794

Max Martin and his team allegedly take lead during this period of 7/27 - 02/10/15: According to Jason Lipshutz from Billboard, Max and his team are leading the charge on 5H2!!! #2796

Ally and Dinah spotted at Max Martin's house - 03/10/15: Looking through ally and dinah's snapchat, they were at Max's house. #2816

In October 2015, it is revealed Fifth Harmony were at a writing camp, working with producers Max Martin, Dr. Luke, Mitch Allan [shelved] Lukas Loules, and Jason Evigan [released] - They cut 4 to 5 songs a day.

In October 2015, Fifth Harmony describes the sound of the album at this point of the sessions.

In a Spin article published October 30th 2015, Dinah talks about Fifth Harmony's new music - She reveals sessions with Stargate and Max Martin. She lists personnell for the album in its current state, including Stargate, Jason Evigan [released], Victoria Monét, Tommy Brown and Mitch Allan [shelved]. She talks writing for the album first time. She reveals 6 songs with Max Martin recorded across multiple recording sessions. She says she could hear Nicki Minaj rapping on one of the 6 Max Martin songs.

In November 2015, Justin Tranter talks writing and recording 'Fools Like Us' with Fifth Harmony, OZGO and Oscar Holter in a Spin article - I talked to Dinah Jane the other day and she said you were also back working on the group’s second record too. Is that right? Tranter: For sure. All those girls are so f**king fierce. It blows, because I did “Like Mariah” but I wasn’t in the studio when they cut it. So this song that we just did last week, I was actually there when they cut it and these voices. I mean, these girls are destroyers.

Lauren Jauregui talks scrapped ballads from 7/27 - 03/03/16: Lauren told a fan that although ballads were recorded for 7/27, there will be no ballads on the final tracklist. #2969

Timeline using second source

[5H3] 22/04/17: Fifth Harmony drafts Happy Perez for new album [Shelved]

[5H3] 17/03/17: Fifth Harmony works with Captain Cuts for new album [Better With You]

[5H3] 15/03/17: Fifth Harmony reunites with Jason Evigan, the Monsters & Strangerz [Lonely Night]

[5H3] 04/02/17: Fifth Harmony hits the studio with Fredro for new album [Shelved]

[5H3] 03/02/17: Fifth Harmony enlists Dyo for new album [Lonely Night]

[5H3] 13/01/17: Fifth Harmony hits the studio with Digital Farm Animals [Shelved]

[5H3] Misc: Gian Stone [Shelved], Shama Joseph [Shelved], Vincent Berry [Shelved]

[727] 28/03/16: Fifth Harmony reunites with Stargate for sophomore album “7/27” [Write On Me, All In My Head, Squeeze, Scared Of Happy, Monies]

[727] 18/02/16: Fifth Harmony snags Julia Michaels, Jack Antonoff for sophomore album [Dope]

[727] 5/12/15: Fifth Harmony hits the studio with THE ELEV3N [All Again]

[727] 13/11/15: Fifth Harmony reunites with Meghan Trainor for second album [Tinderella, All Again]

[727] 14/10/15: Fifth Harmony reunites with Justin Tranter for second album [Fools Like Us]

[727] 04/10/15: Fifth Harmony enlists Max Martin [Shelved], Jason Evigan for second album [Voicemail]

[727] 01/10/15: Fifth Harmony reunites with Mitch Allan for new album [Shelved]

[727] [REF] 05/05/15: Fifth Harmony reunite with Taylor Parks for new music [Shelved]

[727] Misc: The Rascals [Shelved], Jared Cotter, Negin Djafari [Not That Kinda Girl], Tommy Brown [No Way], LunchMoney Lewis [Shelved], Benny Blanco [All In My Head]

[REF] 12/08/14: Tommy Brown, Victoria Monét [Like Mariah, We Know], Ruth-Anne Cunningham [Shelved], Julian Bunetta [Reflection]

[REF] 24/10/14: Eric Hudson [Shelved], Taylor Parks [BO$$], J.R. Rotem [Like Mariah]

[REF] 25/11/14: Andrew Clifton [Shelved]

[REF] 08/01/15: Priscilla Renea [Worth It], Jacob Kasher [Double Vision], Andre Merritt [Going Nowehre]

[BT] 03/05/13: Fifth Harmony work with Ruth-Anne Cunningham for debut album [Shelved]

[BT] 27/04/13: Fifth Harmony hit the studio with Christopher “Tricky” Stewart, Patrick “J. Que” Smith for debut album [Shelved]

[BT] 07/03/13: Toby Gad graces debut album by Fifth Harmony [No Boys Allowed, Better Days]

[BT] 24/02/13: Ali Tamposi confirmed for debut album by Fifth Harmony [No Boys Allowed, Better Days]

[BT] 23/02/13: Fifth Harmony enlist Aimee Proal for debut album [Young & Beautiful]

[BT] 16/02/13: Fifth Harmony enlist Julian Bunetta for debut album [Don't Wanna Dance Alone, Who Are You, Me & My Girls]

[BT] Misc: Autumn Rowe [Don't Wanna Dance Alone], Lil Eddie [Don't Wanna Dance Alone], Jacob Kasher [Tellin' Me], Matt Squire [Shelved]

7/27, According to Wikipedia, The group's initial sessions were at Max Martin's writing camp, where they worked with several music producers, including Martin, Lukas Loules, Dr. Luke, Mitch Allan and Jason Evigan. In a studio with Martin, they recorded four to five songs a day to experiment with sounds and vocal techniques. Jauregui said Martin was in "great spirit the whole time", creating a "good vibe for recording". As of November 2015, the group had finished six tracks but these were not included in the final tracklist. Only two songs created at MXM Studios—"That's My Girl" and "The Life", both of which were written by Tinashe and Alexander Kronlund, and produced by Lukas Loules—were included on the final cut.

In December 2015, Dinahs iCloud got hacked and an alleged tentative tracklist for reflection was leaked. although this could've been faked by the hacker, some of the songs on that tracklist did leak a year later by leaks5h. however there is a possibility leaks5h and the hacker are the same people, with goodbye snippet being leaked initially by the hacker, and the full of that version being leaked by leaks5h alongside other songs a year later.

01. Reflection
02. Going Nowhere
03. We Know
04. No Filter
05. No Way
06. Little Too Much
07. Radar
08. This Ain’t A Love Song
09. Single
10. Boyfriend Boyfriend
11. Who Can I Run To?
12. Everlasting
13. Like Mariah
14. Suga Mama
15. Say Goodbye

Fifth harmony masterpost:

https://mega.nz/folder/EzwhkCiK#SkzLFDbGCW5XgLEy-BQdGQ (edited)

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Edited August 11, 2022 by reflection

LJ1 · February 19, 2021

We want lauren leaks only

freedombylj · February 21, 2021

Yay check out my comp (fanmade album) w all of those official studio scraps, not recordings or snips here:

https://dbree.org/v/52d8d4

idk if i should put this one here or... well u get me

Volcanion · February 21, 2021

On 2/21/2021 at 3:18 AM, freedombylj said:

Yay check out my comp (fanmade album) w all of those official studio scraps, not recordings or snips here:

https://dbree.org/v/52d8d4

idk if i should put this one here or... well u get me

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Idk where my original file is, and this isn’t mine, but there’s an untagged version of Young and Beautiful available now.

https://m.soundcloud.com/dangerousdinah/young-beautiful

I do have the HQ somewhere.

Volcanion · February 21, 2021

Well, "HQ" LOL I am pretty sure I have 320KBPS somewhere, but not on this hard drive,

YOUNG AND BEAUTIFUL, UNTAGGED

https://dbree.org/v/725603

BONUS

YOUNG AND BEAUTIFUL DEMO (AIMEE PROAL)

https://dbree.org/v/31dca9

freedombylj · February 21, 2021

On 2/21/2021 at 4:13 AM, Volcanion said:

UNTAGGED

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untagged where lmao i still hear the tag

Volcanion · February 21, 2021

On 2/21/2021 at 7:27 AM, freedombylj said:

untagged where lmao i still hear the tag

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Hahahaha wtf I literally have the untagged on my phone, and that one is the file on my iTunes.

The untagged is on that SoundCloud.
idk wtf I have.

reflection · March 30, 2021

ive started adding (most) of fifth harmony (Group) unreleased songs to this post! if im missing any let me know so we can eventually have a full infopost for fifth harmony, more details + soloists to the post coming later :hottie:

reflection · March 30, 2021

added soloists categories + most songs. I have to do more research for sure but its looking good so far

Cypher · March 30, 2021

What ever happened with Camila's version of Julia's Little 2 Much / Too Much? Was it ever recorded with the other girls or just Camila?

reflection · March 30, 2021

On 3/30/2021 at 6:19 PM, Cypher said:

What ever happened with Camila's version of Julia's Little 2 Much / Too Much? Was it ever recorded with the other girls or just Camila?

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the full details are unknown, a snippet was posted by leaks5h which 75% of their leaks came from them. they were this fifth harmony insider/leaker who had a shit load of better together- reflection outtakes as well as info on the group. from the snippet it sounds like Camila recorded it solo as none of the other girls are present in the 1 minute snippet, which is odd as I dont think Camila did recordings on her own until after reflection came out and they only leaked and so are known to have only material recorded between better together and reflection era but of every song each girl did their own solo version from which music execs/ producers spliced together their vocals (confirmed by Dinah in a interview and ally in her book) so it may be that as well. but yeah not many details on this other than Julia's demo leaked which is produced by Jason Evigan who I think worked with the girls during better together era if my memory is good

Cypher · March 30, 2021

On 3/30/2021 at 8:01 PM, idrk said:

the full details are unknown, a snippet was posted by leaks5h which 75% of their leaks came from them. they were this fifth harmony insider/leaker who had a shit load of better together- reflection outtakes as well as info on the group. from the snippet it sounds like Camila recorded it solo as none of the other girls are present in the 1 minute snippet, which is odd as I dont think Camila did recordings on her own until after reflection came out and they only leaked and so are known to have only material recorded between better together and reflection era but of every song each girl did their own solo version from which music execs/ producers spliced together their vocals (confirmed by Dinah in a interview and ally in her book) so it may be that as well. but yeah not many details on this other than Julia's demo leaked which is produced by Jason Evigan who I think worked with the girls during better together era if my memory is good

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I really hope for that one to leak and Double Vision. I love Prince Royce, but I feel like the girls are more suited for the style of song.

Edurzm · March 31, 2021

On 3/30/2021 at 8:01 PM, idrk said:

os detalhes completos são desconhecidos, um trecho foi postado por leaks5h em que 75% de seus vazamentos vieram deles. eles eram este quinto integrante / vazador da harmonia que tinha um monte de coisas melhores juntos - tomadas de reflexão, bem como informações sobre o grupo. pelo trecho parece que Camila gravou solo já que nenhuma das outras garotas está presente no trecho de 1 minuto, o que é estranho, pois eu não acho que Camila fez gravações por conta própria até depois que a reflexão saiu e eles apenas vazaram e são conhecidos ter apenas material gravado entre o melhor juntos e a era de reflexão, mas de cada música cada garota fez sua própria versão solo a partir da qual os executivos / produtores musicais juntaram seus vocais (confirmado por Dinah em uma entrevista e aliada em seu livro), então pode ser que também. mas sim, não há muitos detalhes sobre isso além de Julia

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hey can you tell me what happened to the obsession discarded from the romance, there are people who say it was discarded by copyright

Edited March 31, 2021 by Edurzm

reflection · March 31, 2021

On 3/31/2021 at 1:22 AM, Edurzm said:

hey can you tell me what happened to the obsession discarded from the romance, there are people who say it was discarded by copyright

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its registered on BMI as a song written by Pacific and Alex Zinc with Camila listed as the artist. according to insider BOZ Camila never recorded it and it was just a pitched demo for her

Edited March 31, 2021 by idrk

Julianjauregui10 · April 2, 2021

Why do they say that Lauren's Toy is in circulation? It's true? hopefully leak a snippet?

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