‘Empire’ Star Jussie Smollett Violently Attacked by MAGA Supporters

[Whoknowsmehere]

https://pagesix.com/2019/02/19/jussie-smolletts-empire-scenes-cut-after-attack-controversy/?_ga=2.203421074.267642857.1550199666-2051527208.1550003555

 

Not sure what this means exactly?  But it can't be good for Jussie.

[Purr]

On 2/19/2019 at 4:55 AM, Skinny Legend said:

I'm sure the truth will come to light one way or another, but the whole "he orchestrated his own crime" thing just doesn't add up to me. He's a relatively well known performer with a starring role on a hit TV show...Why would he give all that up just for a poorly executed fake crime that would fall apart in minutes of questioning?

I think what we'll have to see is if there's any recent documented exchanges between the brothers and Smollett. If there is, it's likely he did set it up himself; if not, it's possible they're just playing on the public's belief that Smollett is lying to try and get out of a crime they did in fact commit.

Some of the news reports say he was afraid he was gonna get cut from the show. Now he is probably facing jail time and serious backlash after making this up. Apparently he was arrested in 2007 for a DUI and provided the police with a false name. This is not looking very good for him.

Edited February 20, 2019 by Mr. Watson

[Whoknowsmehere]

2 hours ago, Mr. Watson said:

Some of the news reports say he was afraid he was gonna get cut from the show. Now he is probably facing jail time and serious backlash after making this up. Apparently he was arrested in 2007 for a DUI and provided the police with a false name. This is not looking very good for him.

There also reports that the FBI is investigating to see if he sent that threatening letter to himself.  That would be a Federal Crime if he did that.  I am not saying he did.  But the FBI don't mess around.  He would be looking at some very serious prison time. 

 

Get your popcorn and favorite drink my friends.  This gonna be interesting.

[Whoknowsmehere]

It just keeps getting worse for Jussie.  His Empire is crumbling. 

 

https://abc7chicago.com/jussie-smollet-a-suspect-in-criminal-investigation-for-filing-false-police-report-police-say/5147410/

 

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/02/20/breaking-jussie-smollett-is-now-a-suspect-in-a-criminal-investigation-for-filing-a-false-police-report/

[Whoknowsmehere]

I am on my phone and the link will not paste for some reason. 

 

Jussie Smollett has been charged with filing a False Police Report.  A Class 4 Felony.  Up to a year and a half prison sentence.  From what I read, he is supposed to turn himself in tomorrow.  Forget that BS.  I want to see him being escorted through the front door of the police station in hand cuffs.   He done hurt a lot of people, and deserves whatever he has coming to him. 

 

And he he is still apparently being investigated for potential Mail Fraud.  That is a Federal Crime.  Jussie in trouble. 

[antwonvo]

I feel mixed about the whole situation like why would a celebrity on one of the biggest shows on TV rn stage an attack on his self? For clout? When he's a star in a TV show? For money? Which he has? It doesn't make sense, but also what kind of MAGA support walks around with rope and bleach on hand ? The whole situation is bizarre and only time will tell.  

[Main Pop Girl]

11 hours ago, Mr. Watson said:

Some of the news reports say he was afraid he was gonna get cut from the show. Now he is probably facing jail time and serious backlash after making this up. Apparently he was arrested in 2007 for a DUI and provided the police with a false name. This is not looking very good for him.

Seriously? What kind of crazy person comes up with such an elaborate scandal just so they can keep their spot on a failing TV show?  Surely there's a better way to impress your boss...

35 minutes ago, Whoknowsmehere said:

I am on my phone and the link will not paste for some reason. 

 

Jussie Smollett has been charged with filing a False Police Report.  A Class 4 Felony.  Up to a year and a half prison sentence.  From what I read, he is supposed to turn himself in tomorrow.  Forget that BS.  I want to see him being escorted through the front door of the police station in hand cuffs.   He done hurt a lot of people, and deserves whatever he has coming to him. 

 

And he he is still apparently being investigated for potential Mail Fraud.  That is a Federal Crime.  Jussie in trouble. 

If true (and I hate to say that it really seems like it is at this point), this revelation is absolutely disappointing and disgusting. Even if he didn't mean to intentionally hurt people, the fact is that he's besmirched the names and stories of thousands of other people who really have gone through similar things, and who now may not be believed because of his selfish actions. I'm honestly still totally baffled that someone could stoop to such lows for fame.

[Whoknowsmehere]

2 hours ago, Skinny Legend said:

What kind of crazy person

I don't think he is crazy at all.  I honestly think he believed he would get a way with it.  It would not surprise me if he did this more because of his hate for President Trump.  I mean, in his interview he even mentioned how much he hated him.  I think that may have been an unintentional subconcious tell by him.   I have no proof that is why he did what he did.  But it is as good a guess as anything else I have heard. 

 

Unfortunately in today's politically sensitive world we live in, when you mention the term "Hate Crime", there is a certain aspect of society that is immediately going to jump on the bandwagon.  I mean look at how quickly the News Media, Hollywood, and to a large extent the Gay community and the African American Community to a large extent jumped to his defense.  Very sad. 

 

We have to stop all the hate that is coming from all sides.  Just because we may disagree with someones beliefs -Whatever those beliefs may be- does not mean we have to hate them for said beliefs. 

2 hours ago, Skinny Legend said:

If true

OH.  Sorry my friend.  It's true. 

2 hours ago, Skinny Legend said:

Even if he didn't mean to intentionally hurt people,

I don't think he was worried about who might get hurt.  Intentionally, or otherwise.  He was only thinking of himself. 

2 hours ago, Skinny Legend said:

I'm honestly still totally baffled that someone could stoop to such lows for fame.

I'm not.  It is the world we live in now.   Sad.  I know.

[Whoknowsmehere]

3 hours ago, antwonvo said:

why would a celebrity on one of the biggest shows on TV

It was only a hit for those that watched the show.  We have appx. 130 people that work where I work, so I did a little self poll in the break room at work.  I could not find one person, me included, Who had seen the show.  Nor for that matter, no one who had even heard of him prior to this. 

3 hours ago, antwonvo said:

When he's a star in a TV show?

Being on a TV show does not make one a star. 

3 hours ago, antwonvo said:

what kind of MAGA support walks around with rope and bleach on hand ?

None.  Especially in Chicago.  My gosh, Chicago is one of the most Liberal cities in the Country.  Believe me, they would have been noticed.  Even at 2:00am in 20 degree weather.  Especially at 2:00am in 20 degree weather.  LOL. 

 

And not one witness came forward. 

[Main Pop Girl]

50 minutes ago, Whoknowsmehere said:

I don't think he is crazy at all.  I honestly think he believed he would get a way with it.  It would not surprise me if he did this more because of his hate for President Trump.  I mean, in his interview he even mentioned how much he hated him.  I think that may have been an unintentional subconcious tell by him.   I have no proof that is why he did what he did.  But it is as good a guess as anything else I have heard. 

 

Unfortunately in today's politically sensitive world we live in, when you mention the term "Hate Crime", there is a certain aspect of society that is immediately going to jump on the bandwagon.  I mean look at how quickly the News Media, Hollywood, and to a large extent the Gay community and the African American Community to a large extent jumped to his defense.  Very sad. 

  

We have to stop all the hate that is coming from all sides.  Just because we may disagree with someones beliefs -Whatever those beliefs may be- does not mean we have to hate them for said beliefs. 

OH.  Sorry my friend.  It's true. 

I don't think he was worried about who might get hurt.  Intentionally, or otherwise.  He was only thinking of himself. 

I'm not.  It is the world we live in now.   Sad.  I know.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say...Are you saying that anytime anyone comes forward about a hate crime, we should all be bitter and jaded and immediately accuse them of lying?  Maybe it will turn out this wasn't true, but either way I don't feel like I did the wrong thing in expressing sympathy for the alleged victim of an attack. I think it would be a sad world to live in if everyone who comes forward about being attacked (regardless of if they're black or white or gay or straight) has to be go through a thorough investigation before we can send our love their way.

Also, I find it a little weird that you were all for reserving judgement and waiting for facts to roll in when public opinion was on his side, but now that things are swinging your way you're suddenly 100% percent sure that he's guilty. There still hasn't been a trial or really any concrete evidence that's been released to the public, so even if we all have our suspicions at this point I don't think anyone can say he's definitely guilty.

[Whoknowsmehere]

13 minutes ago, Skinny Legend said:

I'm not sure what you're trying to say...Are you saying that anytime anyone comes forward about a hate crime, we should all be bitter and jaded and immediately accuse them of lying?

That's a bit of a stretch to interpret what I said that way.  I never said anything even close to that.  Please do not let your desire for this not to be true, blind you to the facts. 

 

15 minutes ago, Skinny Legend said:

I don't feel like I did the wrong thing in expressing sympathy for the alleged victim of an attack.

Again, I do not know how you are interpreting what I said to be even close to that.  Know one said you did anything wrong.  I would hope that We would all feel sorry for any victim of a crime of such nature. I have said all a long that if this happened the way he said it happened, that the guilty parties should be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law.

 

19 minutes ago, Skinny Legend said:

Also, I find it a little weird that you were all for reserving judgement and waiting for facts to roll in when public opinion was on his side, but now that things are swinging your way you're suddenly 100% percent sure that he's guilty.

I have no side in this.  You are entitled to believe whatever you would like to believe.  That is your right.  I respect that.   I can only speak for myself.  And As I stand here today, I have come to the conclusion after much consideration, that he perputrated this hoax and should be held accountable.  Please feel free to disagree.  I have no problem with that.  I take no pride in coming to this conclusion.  I am not sitting here on my computer smiling with glee or jumping up and down with joy. 

 

This incident has hurt us all.  But the ones it has hurt the most are the Real Victims of these type of attacks.  I mean look at us.  We probably have so much in common, yet here we are arguing about this. 

[Main Pop Girl]

On 2/21/2019 at 7:22 PM, Whoknowsmehere said:

That's a bit of a stretch to interpret what I said that way.  I never said anything even close to that.  Please do not let your desire for this not to be true, blind you to the facts. 

 

Again, I do not know how you are interpreting what I said to be even close to that.  Know one said you did anything wrong.  I would hope that We would all feel sorry for any victim of a crime of such nature. I have said all a long that if this happened the way he said it happened, that the guilty parties should be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law.

 

I have no side in this.  You are entitled to believe whatever you would like to believe.  That is your right.  I respect that.   I can only speak for myself.  And As I stand here today, I have come to the conclusion after much consideration, that he perputrated this hoax and should be held accountable.  Please feel free to disagree.  I have no problem with that.  I take no pride in coming to this conclusion.  I am not sitting here on my computer smiling with glee or jumping up and down with joy. 

 

This incident has hurt us all.  But the ones it has hurt the most are the Real Victims of these type of attacks.  I mean look at us.  We probably have so much in common, yet here we are arguing about this. 

Well, you said that it was "very sad" that "News Media, Hollywood, and to a large extent the Gay community and the African American Community to a large extent jumped to his defense". I don't think there's anything sad in expressing sympathy for people who say they've been a victim of a violent attack. I think that that should be the norm, and I think that it would it be sad to have to treat everyone who comes forward with suspicion and derision. But maybe I misinterpreted what you were trying to say?

[Whoknowsmehere]

3 minutes ago, Skinny Legend said:

But maybe I misinterpreted what you were trying to say?

That is possible.  It is also possible that I did not put my thoughts into words as well as i would have liked to.   I always said, that if this actually happened to him, then he is the Victim and deserves all the sympathy and help he would need to get through this.  And I do believe I gave him the benefit of the doubt in the beginning.  Was I skeptical?  As a natural Skeptic, Yes I was.  I never take things at face value.  I have been told many times that I have too much of an analytical personality.  Always want to look at all sides before making any decisions.  I am that way at work as well.  I have always been that way.   Sometimes we just need to take a step back and wait, instead of immediately taking one side or the other when things happen.  No matter where are our Heart may be trying to lead us. 

 

27 minutes ago, Skinny Legend said:

I think that it would it be sad to have to treat everyone who comes forward with suspicion and derision.

I could not agree with you more my friend on this statement.  Unfortunately, when we have these types of incidents (and I am afraid it is happening more frequently lately), it can cause us to become much more skeptical than we might already be.  Hopefully, if anything good can come out of this, it will be that we can be more tolerant of each others differences and learn to look for what we have in common and not what divides us.  (That may be a big unattainable dream with the political climate we seem to be living in today). 

 

18 minutes ago, Skinny Legend said:

I don't think there's anything sad in expressing sympathy for people who say they've been a victim of a violent attack.

Of course there is nothing sad or wrong with being sympathetic.  What kind of society would we be if we did not have sympathy for victims of a brutal attack, as this appeared to be at first glance.  But the problem in this instance is that the narrative was that it was automatically true just because he said it was.  I am sorry, but I have seen way too many of these type of things turn out to be not what they seem, to believe any ones story immediately.  I understand that that may be a bit harsh in some peoples eyes.   

[Main Pop Girl]

On 2/23/2019 at 2:14 PM, Whoknowsmehere said:

That is possible.  It is also possible that I did not put my thoughts into words as well as i would have liked to.   I always said, that if this actually happened to him, then he is the Victim and deserves all the sympathy and help he would need to get through this.  And I do believe I gave him the benefit of the doubt in the beginning.  Was I skeptical?  As a natural Skeptic, Yes I was.  I never take things at face value.  I have been told many times that I have too much of an analytical personality.  Always want to look at all sides before making any decisions.  I am that way at work as well.  I have always been that way.   Sometimes we just need to take a step back and wait, instead of immediately taking one side or the other when things happen.  No matter where are our Heart may be trying to lead us. 

 

I could not agree with you more my friend on this statement.  Unfortunately, when we have these types of incidents (and I am afraid it is happening more frequently lately), it can cause us to become much more skeptical than we might already be.  Hopefully, if anything good can come out of this, it will be that we can be more tolerant of each others differences and learn to look for what we have in common and not what divides us.  (That may be a big unattainable dream with the political climate we seem to be living in today). 

 

Of course there is nothing sad or wrong with being sympathetic.  What kind of society would we be if we did not have sympathy for victims of a brutal attack, as this appeared to be at first glance.  But the problem in this instance is that the narrative was that it was automatically true just because he said it was.  I am sorry, but I have seen way too many of these type of things turn out to be not what they seem, to believe any ones story immediately.  I understand that that may be a bit harsh in some peoples eyes.   

I think what it comes down to is a difference in opinion when it comes to dealing with victims of these crimes. I try very hard to believe and support the victim while still not harbouring too much blame or hatred for the attacker, whereas it seems like you take more a reserved approach. I see where you're coming from, but I still think the percentage of these kinds of crimes which turn out to be untrue and staged is low enough that we can afford to give people the benefit of the doubt.

[Main Pop Girl]

Smollett has been cleared of all charges. However, that doesn't mean he's innocent. The Chicago police are still claiming he's guilty and it seems as though they didn't have enough money to take him to trial, whereas Smollett is of course still claiming that he's innocent.

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Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel has demanded answers over why actor Jussie Smollett was cleared of staging a hate crime.

Appearing on Good Morning America, the former aide to Barack Obama was not happy.

“This does not add up. They better get their story straight, this is making fools of us all,” he said.

“He abused the city of Chicago, he committed a crime here. He lied about something,” Emmanuel went on, adding that it was not just the state but also a grand jury who thought Smollett was guilty.

“He said he wanted to get his name clear. Let’s get to the bottom of this, let’s find out what happened,” Mr Emanuel said.

Mr Emanuel, however, stopped short of calling for an investigation into prosecutors for the sweetheart deal that he blasted as a “whitewash of justice” on Tuesday.

“You have the state’s attorney’s office saying he’s not exonerated, he actually did commit this hoax. He’s saying he’s innocent and his words are true — they better get their stories straight,” said Mr Emanuel.

“This looks like because he’s an actor, a person of influence, he got treated differently than anybody else,” the mayor said on Good Morning America.

It comes as Chicago police came out swinging and released the full 61-page investigative report in the alleged Jussie Smollett hate crime hoax, one day after charges against the Empire star were dramatically dropped.

 

So it seems like we'll never actually know what happened...