Bonnie McKee - Hot City (aka Epic Album)

[Lucas M]

4 hours ago, zaynphallic said:

So we're all pretty much in agreement that "Forever 21" would have been the third single after "S.L.A.Y." back in the day, right? What an absolute ANTHEM of a song.  

Agreed!

[Aftershock088]

Not Miss McKee posting IG stories about Katy Perry’s 12 year anniversary of her Teenage Dream album while continuing to leave us starved of her releases… 🫣

[cocomong]

And she also promoted some other shit.

[BraveNewSeth]

We need RYH final, girlies

[Bambi101]

6 hours ago, BraveNewSeth said:

We need RYH final, girlies

Also Lie Detector.mp3 so we can complete our Femme Faytale sessions and bop to Bonnie's theme song.

 

[Aftershock088]

Is she serious? “ask epic lol”, I’m really not lol’ing 😒

 

*big sigh*

[zaynphallic]

New Podcast: 

 

A few highlights:

• "Teenage Dream" was the most difficult song to write. Bonnie came up with the title.
• She and Katy talked about working together on the "Witness" album, but Katy wanted to work with a new team, and Bonnie was having a "mental breakdown at the time" (lol) so they ultimately felt it wouldn't be a good fit.
• She feels like the Epic songs are some of her best work, and that she was in her "peak era of writing pop hits". Said she believed in the album with all of her heart, but the label didn't understand it.
• She says the people at Epic at the time "were not really confident in themselves as a label", and if something "didn't immediately skyrocket, it was on to the next". Says "American Girl" was doing really well, but as soon as it started to dip a bit they jumped ship. She says she was "livid".
• Says the label agreed on "S.L.A.Y." being the second single, and so Bonnie landed the opening spot on the Karmin tour herself, and fronted the money for the tour herself, before Epic changed their mind on "S.L.A.Y." and left her to pay for the tour on her own. That's when she called her manager and said she wanted out.
• She talks about the leaked demos. Says she really appreciates that people give a shit about the songs, and it gives her hope and makes her feel validated, but it's also scary and violating because she doesn't understand how people got her hands on them.
• Says she's still dealing with shit trying to get the masters cleared.
• She built a whole set with her bare hands "for the fans" for the "S.L.A.Y." music video. I'm assuming she's talking about the vault she teased on Instagram.
• She says a couple years after everything fell apart at Epic, she still wanted to put out "S.L.A.Y." and a friend of hers was like "nobody says slay anymore". Lol. (I wonder if this is the same friend who convinced her to release "Thorns"?! I smell sabotage.) However she feels like the word "slay" is making a comeback (😂) and this is the universe telling her "slay bitch, let's go".
• She is thinking about calling the album "From the Vault" because she wants to be clear that these are old songs and a "walk down pop history lane".
• She wants to put out "S.L.A.Y." to help get some traction before releasing the new album.
• The new album is a lot darker, vulnerable and personal "but still BOPS".
• The Bombastic EP was supposed to be a full album, but her manager at the time convinced her to make it an EP. (🙄) She said she wishes she put more songs on it, and after it was released her manager "didn't love it" anyway. She says a lot of time she listens to people who think they have authority on taste, but they don't. (Lol no kidding).
• She says she really didn't want to give up "Naked" and "I Don't Care" because they were really personal to her.
• She wrote a song with Miley for "Bangerz" that didn't make it because it "wasn't that great".
• She thought about keeping "Let There Be Love" for herself because she knew it was a smash, and was annoyed Xtina didn't really do much with it.
• She talks briefly about "California Winter" (yasss), and says she tries to push it every year because she believes it will be a classic. She had to do a one-shot video because there was like "two weeks to Christmas" and she didn't have time to edit it. (We love our last minute queen).
• The host brings up "Stud Muffin" (screams!). Bonnie said her friend worked at Quest Bar and had a budget for a song/music video. 🤣 She says it's "so dumb" but she "loves it".
• She ends off by naming her Top 5 songs she's written/co-written...
  • #5) "American Girl"
  • #4) "Forever Drunk" by Peach PRC (surprising to see this here, since Bonnie hasn't really promoted it. But she says Peach is a former stripper and sent her a video stripping to "American Girl" lol)
  • #3) "Wide Awake"
  • #2) "Roar"
  • #1) "Teenage Dream" (says the title has really gone on to make it's mark in pop culture history, and "the title was mine.")

[Cypher]

2 hours ago, zaynphallic said:

New Podcast: 

 

A few highlights:

• "Teenage Dream" was the most difficult song to write. Bonnie came up with the title.
• She and Katy talked about working together on the "Witness" album, but Katy wanted to work with a new team, and Bonnie was having a "mental breakdown at the time" (lol) so they ultimately felt it wouldn't be a good fit.
• She feels like the Epic songs are some of her best work, and that she was in her "peak era of writing pop hits". Said she believed in the album with all of her heart, but the label didn't understand it.
• She says the people at Epic at the time "were not really confident in themselves as a label", and if something "didn't immediately skyrocket, it was on to the next". Says "American Girl" was doing really well, but as soon as it started to dip a bit they jumped ship. She says she was "livid".
• Says the label agreed on "S.L.A.Y." being the second single, and so Bonnie landed the opening spot on the Karmin tour herself, and fronted the money for the tour herself, before Epic changed their mind on "S.L.A.Y." and left her to pay for the tour on her own. That's when she called her manager and said she wanted out.
• She talks about the leaked demos. Says she really appreciates that people give a shit about the songs, and it gives her hope and makes her feel validated, but it's also scary and violating because she doesn't understand how people got her hands on them.
• Says she's still dealing with shit trying to get the masters cleared.
• She built a whole set with her bare hands "for the fans" for the "S.L.A.Y." music video. I'm assuming she's talking about the vault she teased on Instagram.
• She says a couple years after everything fell apart at Epic, she still wanted to put out "S.L.A.Y." and a friend of hers was like "nobody says slay anymore". Lol. (I wonder if this is the same friend who convinced her to release "Thorns"?! I smell sabotage.) However she feels like the word "slay" is making a comeback (😂) and this is the universe telling her "slay bitch, let's go".
• She is thinking about calling the album "From the Vault" because she wants to be clear that these are old songs and a "walk down pop history lane".
• She wants to put out "S.L.A.Y." to help get some traction before releasing the new album.
• The new album is a lot darker, vulnerable and personal "but still BOPS".
• The Bombastic EP was supposed to be a full album, but her manager at the time convinced her to make it an EP. (🙄) She said she wishes she put more songs on it, and after it was released her manager "didn't love it" anyway. She says a lot of time she listens to people who think they have authority on taste, but they don't. (Lol no kidding).
• She says she really didn't want to give up "Naked" and "I Don't Care" because they were really personal to her.
• She wrote a song with Miley for "Bangerz" that didn't make it because it "wasn't that great".
• She thought about keeping "Let There Be Love" for herself because she knew it was a smash, and was annoyed Xtina didn't really do much with it.
• She talks briefly about "California Winter" (yasss), and says she tries to push it every year because she believes it will be a classic. She had to do a one-shot video because there was like "two weeks to Christmas" and she didn't have time to edit it. (We love our last minute queen).
• The host brings up "Stud Muffin" (screams!). Bonnie said her friend worked at Quest Bar and had a budget for a song/music video. 🤣 She says it's "so dumb" but she "loves it".
• She ends off by naming her Top 5 songs she's written/co-written...
  • #5) "American Girl"
  • #4) "Forever Drunk" by Peach PRC (surprising to see this here, since Bonnie hasn't really promoted it. But she says Peach is a former stripper and sent her a video stripping to "American Girl" lol)
  • #3) "Wide Awake"
  • #2) "Roar"
  • #1) "Teenage Dream" (says the title has really gone on to make it's mark in pop culture history, and "the title was mine.")

These are some cool takeaways!...but she just needs to put out material. Stop talking about it and just get something out so at least people can point to it and say look, this is Bonnie McKee.

[BraveNewSeth]

I’m sorry, I just can’t believe her anymore. Until we either have a pre-order link or (AT THE VERY LEAST) a confirmed release date, we’re not getting anything imo.

[Ice Prince]

4 hours ago, Aftershock088 said:

 

Spoiler

Is she serious? “ask epic lol”, I’m really not lol’ing 😒

 

*big sigh*

Didn't I tell y'all?  I wanna see now those people saying something was coming in August. August is dead and buried, and so my hopes for her releasing anything this year.

2 hours ago, zaynphallic said:

New Podcast: 

 

A few highlights:

• Spoiler

  • "Teenage Dream" was the most difficult song to write. Bonnie came up with the title.
  • She and Katy talked about working together on the "Witness" album, but Katy wanted to work with a new team, and Bonnie was having a "mental breakdown at the time" (lol) so they ultimately felt it wouldn't be a good fit.
  • She feels like the Epic songs are some of her best work, and that she was in her "peak era of writing pop hits". Said she believed in the album with all of her heart, but the label didn't understand it.
  • She says the people at Epic at the time "were not really confident in themselves as a label", and if something "didn't immediately skyrocket, it was on to the next". Says "American Girl" was doing really well, but as soon as it started to dip a bit they jumped ship. She says she was "livid".
  • Says the label agreed on "S.L.A.Y." being the second single, and so Bonnie landed the opening spot on the Karmin tour herself, and fronted the money for the tour herself, before Epic changed their mind on "S.L.A.Y." and left her to pay for the tour on her own. That's when she called her manager and said she wanted out.
  • She talks about the leaked demos. Says she really appreciates that people give a shit about the songs, and it gives her hope and makes her feel validated, but it's also scary and violating because she doesn't understand how people got her hands on them.
  • Says she's still dealing with shit trying to get the masters cleared.
  • She built a whole set with her bare hands "for the fans" for the "S.L.A.Y." music video. I'm assuming she's talking about the vault she teased on Instagram.
  • She says a couple years after everything fell apart at Epic, she still wanted to put out "S.L.A.Y." and a friend of hers was like "nobody says slay anymore". Lol. (I wonder if this is the same friend who convinced her to release "Thorns"?! I smell sabotage.) However she feels like the word "slay" is making a comeback (😂) and this is the universe telling her "slay bitch, let's go".
  • She is thinking about calling the album "From the Vault" because she wants to be clear that these are old songs and a "walk down pop history lane".
  • She wants to put out "S.L.A.Y." to help get some traction before releasing the new album.
  • The new album is a lot darker, vulnerable and personal "but still BOPS".
  • The Bombastic EP was supposed to be a full album, but her manager at the time convinced her to make it an EP. (🙄) She said she wishes she put more songs on it, and after it was released her manager "didn't love it" anyway. She says a lot of time she listens to people who think they have authority on taste, but they don't. (Lol no kidding).
  • She says she really didn't want to give up "Naked" and "I Don't Care" because they were really personal to her.
  • She wrote a song with Miley for "Bangerz" that didn't make it because it "wasn't that great".
  • She thought about keeping "Let There Be Love" for herself because she knew it was a smash, and was annoyed Xtina didn't really do much with it.
  • She talks briefly about "California Winter" (yasss), and says she tries to push it every year because she believes it will be a classic. She had to do a one-shot video because there was like "two weeks to Christmas" and she didn't have time to edit it. (We love our last minute queen).
  • The host brings up "Stud Muffin" (screams!). Bonnie said her friend worked at Quest Bar and had a budget for a song/music video. 🤣 She says it's "so dumb" but she "loves it".
  • She ends off by naming her Top 5 songs she's written/co-written...
    • #5) "American Girl"
    • #4) "Forever Drunk" by Peach PRC (surprising to see this here, since Bonnie hasn't really promoted it. But she says Peach is a former stripper and sent her a video stripping to "American Girl" lol)
    • #3) "Wide Awake"
    • #2) "Roar"
    • #1) "Teenage Dream" (says the title has really gone on to make it's mark in pop culture history, and "the title was mine.")

I would very much like her to stop referring to what she wrote a decade ago. Like, I get it, was pop history and ground breaking and game changing BUT she seems to be out of control of her music EVEN if she's an independent artist.

I truly want her to put the Epic songs out, but IN THE MEANWHILE, she could release her darker album she keeps talking on, and eventually release those other tracks when she gets the masters back like droplet singles within 5 summers or whatever.

Bring it on, Bonnie, I want to believe you.

[low kii savage]

5 hours ago, Aftershock088 said:

53 minutes ago, Ice Prince said:

Didn't I tell y'all?  I wanna see now those people saying something was coming in August. August is dead and buried, and so my hopes for her releasing anything this year.

 

Don't worry guys, if Bonnie McKee won't release this summer....
EVIL MCQUEEN WILL ON HALLOWEEN

Spoiler

hopefully....

 

[chimera]

Does anyone have Dirty Laundry with the bridge version to share? 

[cocomong]

I was going to say something but after reading the highlights of the podcast…what’s the point. There’s nothing to be said anymore lol. Stream forever drunk!

[Bambi101]

13 hours ago, Aftershock088 said:

Is she serious? “ask epic lol”, I’m really not lol’ing 😒

 

*big sigh*

To think we really went from "driving my truck to Target to drop off physical copies of the album as we speak" to her lol'ing about this mess? Yeah, the album is not coming out this decade, let alone this year.

______________________________________________________________________________

Thanks so much for posting the podcast @zaynphallic!! 💗 I'm glad she spilled some fresh new tea!

First of all though.... She's overdoing it with the Cobra Man promo, it's actually putting me off of listening to their music.... put that same energy into YOUR career, baby girl. Her love life in general I'm not crazy about...

The reason why American Girl is her biggest song isn't solely because it had a major label backing... it's because it's a genuinely great pop song with glossy polished production and stellar melodies. Thorns could've been released by Interscope and it still would've flopped. If a song's great it WILL find its audience big label backing or not. If it's underwhelming no amount of promo and publicity can save it.

This has been said many times, but lemme say it again--Epic is SO incredibly dumb and trash for shelving the album and STILL putting obstacles Bonnie's way 8 years later. For God's sake just LET HER LIVE. It's not like they're using those songs for anything or anyone, they're literally just sitting there.

'From the Vault' --> "...that's what the kids are calling it" --> GIRL, WHO?  Cuz we sure as hell ain't calling it THAT. Imo, most people making their own version of the Epic album are naming it Electric Heaven or American Girl. From the Vault sounds terrible lol.

I concur that bad timing and incompetent management (or should I say mismanagement) are sadly running themes throughout her career--however, her making horrendous business decisions is also part of the problem. If the second (new) album is completed, mixed, all the artwork done, AND she actually owns the rights to the music and has the songs cleared WHERE. IS. THE. ALBUM. and why is she not putting it out first (when she can)? It'd help tie us all over until the Epic album can be released and give us something to listen to. Maybe you're the problem, baby girl.

I hope she's no longer working with the Bombastic manager because not following the EP up with a full-length record was a HUGE mistake. Everybody wanted to hear more.

Good to hear she's no longer following trends, but I'll believe it when I hear it cuz those last few singles are the very definition of following trends and what's worse, by the time she put them out they already sounded dated (Thorns, Mad Mad World)..

Let There Be Love isn't the smash she thinks it is  Is it one of the better songs on Lotus? Sure. Was it already generic and dated by the time the album came out? YES. And that's why I think Christina didn't bother promoting it because she knew it just wasn't IT.

She loves the Stud Muffin music video yet it was taken down and it's currently not available anywhere 💀

 

7 hours ago, low kii savage said:

Don't worry guys, if Bonnie McKee won't release this summer....
EVIL MCQUEEN WILL ON HALLOWEEN

  Reveal hidden contents

hopefully....

 

 

I screamed, but the fact this is the only likely scenario we'll hear new music is 

[BonnieMcChicken]

If she filmed a music video for slay i would hope she has the legal stuff somewhat figured out or at least for that song. i hope she's just waiting to release slay until she has the rest of the songs figured out. idk i'm just making stuff up. release something anything. she should have kept naked for herself. such a great song. but we would have never heard it if that happened.