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20 hours ago, Kristian Karlsson said:

Now, what's your least favorite Bonnie song?

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OMG I thought I was the only one who didn’t like Hot City. I don’t hate it, but it just sounds so cheap compared to the other songs. They all have massive, anthemic choruses but Hot City’s hits like a wet fart 😅 I wish it was more like the live version and those vocal distortions were guitars instead.

I’m also not the biggest fan of DGMGF, but that has more to do with the fact that it’s incomplete. With a different second verse and a more fleshed out chorus, it would be amazing. 

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The Hot City dragging needs to stawp or else Somebody's Gonna Get Hurt.mp3 :shocked:

I feel like y'all underestimate the power of proper production and final well-done remaster polish--the most important thing is that the potential is there, and I don't trust anyone who refuses to bop to HC's incredible verses and pre-chorus. Imo, you could have Max Martin himself try and fix Thorns and it'd still be an underwhelming throwaway track that should've NEVER seen the light of day even if it was a Taiwan bonus track :dealwithit:

Also, the stark production differences between the leaked Epic songs really help aiding us in what would've most likely been included on the EP that was to follow American Girl (which was originally supposed to be the full-length album but this was the beginning of Epic trolling her). It's a no-brainer S.L.A.Y., SGGH, Everything But You, IWFCY, and Rewind Your Heart would've made it because they are so polished. Forever 21 probably as well, though who knows since it hasn't leaked and won't be leaking.

Songs like Mirage, Hitman, etc. were probably going to be rerecorded and completely redone, but once Epic made the decision she'd release an EP, I think she ended up scrapping them.

I'm torn about tracks like Electric Heaven, Outlaw, and Sexin' U. They clearly lack a lot of polish, but would've made cute bops if they were finished. Don't Get Mad, Get Famous is incomplete. Point blank period. 

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Ok these are the most recent mentions of the highly anticipated and always promised second album taken from podcasts with Bonnie:

DRAMA with Connor & Dylan MacDowell -- November 2021

Host: The one last thing I wanna say about American Girl, too, is that's a non-album single, right? Like, you just released that...?

Bonnie: Yeah, I was signed to Epic and I had a whole album written and that was the first single, and then I got a tour and I was getting ready to release the second single, and, um, the label--after telling me that it (S.L.A.Y.) was gonna be a hit or whatever--I took it out on tour, I played it on a few radio stations and stuff, and it was reacting well, and then, um.. the label head was just like 'yeah no, I don't believe in it anymore.' Meanwhile I'm on a promotional tour for it; that I payed for, by the way, out of pocket because they were supposed to pay me back, and then.. by the end of the tour I was like 'I don't wanna be on this label, this is not working for me,' and so luckily my manager was able to negotiate for me to leave and be able to take my masters. So I still have all the masters from that album, and the fans are hungry for it because I've toured with it and I've played a lot of festivals and stuff with those songs so there's a lot of like, you know, live recordings floating around online and everyone's like 'when are these songs coming out!? We want S.L.A.Y., we want Forever 21!!' and like, I do wanna put them out--I just wanna put them out at the right time where it's not just like falling on deaf ears, you know.

 

Little Known Facts with Ilana Levine, Episode 271 -- November 15, 2021

Host: Are there any songs coming out? that you've written that we don't know yet? that you can talk about?

Bonnie: I have... I've been sitting on a whole lot of music for years, honestly, and I was,, right before the quarantine I was a wrap- about to put out an album that I'm very proud of, that I feel like is some of my best work, and then quarantine hit and I was like 'eh, now's not the time,' um, so I'm gearing up to put that out next year and try to figure out how to go about that because, you know, being an independent artist is.. is a full-time job, and I think that nowadays with things like TikTok and social media and stuff there's a lot that artists can do to really take back the power without needing a label, um, but I don't know I'm just-
I have a bunch of music that I'm really excited to put out and.. you'll hear it next year, I promise.  

 

Thoughts?

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4 minutes ago, Bambi101 said:

Bonnie: I have... I've been sitting on a whole lot of music for years, honestly, and I was,, right before the quarantine I was a wrap- about to put out an album that I'm very proud of, that I feel like is some of my best work, and then quarantine hit and I was like 'eh, now's not the time,' um, so I'm gearing up to put that out next year and try to figure out how to go about that because, you know, being an independent artist is.. is a full-time job, and I think that nowadays with things like TikTok and social media and stuff there's a lot that artists can do to really take back the power without needing a label, um, but I don't know I'm just-
I have a bunch of music that I'm really excited to put out and.. you'll hear it next year, I promise.  

 

i need that 2019 snippet to get released this year

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6 minutes ago, Bambi101 said:

Ok these are the most recent mentions of the highly anticipated and always promised second album taken from podcasts with Bonnie:

DRAMA with Connor & Dylan MacDowell -- November 2021

Host: The one last thing I wanna say about American Girl, too, is that's a non-album single, right? Like, you just released that...?

Bonnie: Yeah, I was signed to Epic and I had a whole album written and that was the first single, and then I got a tour and I was getting ready to release the second single, and, um, the label--after telling me that it (S.L.A.Y.) was gonna be a hit or whatever--I took it out on tour, I played it on a few radio stations and stuff, and it was reacting well, and then, um.. the label head was just like 'yeah no, I don't believe in it anymore.' Meanwhile I'm on a promotional tour for it; that I payed for, by the way, out of pocket because they were supposed to pay me back, and then.. by the end of the tour I was like 'I don't wanna be on this label, this is not working for me,' and so luckily my manager was able to negotiate for me to leave and be able to take my masters. So I still have all the masters from that album, and the fans are hungry for it because I've toured with it and I've played a lot of festivals and stuff with those songs so there's a lot of like, you know, live recordings floating around online and everyone's like 'when are these songs coming out!? We want S.L.A.Y., we want Forever 21!!' and like, I do wanna put them out--I just wanna put them out at the right time where it's not just like falling on deaf ears, you know.

 

Little Known Facts with Ilana Levine, Episode 271 -- November 15, 2021

Host: Are there any songs coming out? that you've written that we don't know yet? that you can talk about?

Bonnie: I have... I've been sitting on a whole lot of music for years, honestly, and I was,, right before the quarantine I was a wrap- about to put out an album that I'm very proud of, that I feel like is some of my best work, and then quarantine hit and I was like 'eh, now's not the time,' um, so I'm gearing up to put that out next year and try to figure out how to go about that because, you know, being an independent artist is.. is a full-time job, and I think that nowadays with things like TikTok and social media and stuff there's a lot that artists can do to really take back the power without needing a label, um, but I don't know I'm just-
I have a bunch of music that I'm really excited to put out and.. you'll hear it next year, I promise.  

 

Thoughts?

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"I just wanna put them out at the right time where it's not just like falling on deaf ears"...Girl, the only reason our ears are deaf is because you haven't given us any music to listen to :roll: How does she expect to build up any hype without any actual releases? Surely not the student films? :tragic: 

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57 minutes ago, Bambi101 said:

Ok these are the most recent mentions of the highly anticipated and always promised second album taken from podcasts with Bonnie:

DRAMA with Connor & Dylan MacDowell -- November 2021

Host: The one last thing I wanna say about American Girl, too, is that's a non-album single, right? Like, you just released that...?

Bonnie: Yeah, I was signed to Epic and I had a whole album written and that was the first single, and then I got a tour and I was getting ready to release the second single, and, um, the label--after telling me that it (S.L.A.Y.) was gonna be a hit or whatever--I took it out on tour, I played it on a few radio stations and stuff, and it was reacting well, and then, um.. the label head was just like 'yeah no, I don't believe in it anymore.' Meanwhile I'm on a promotional tour for it; that I payed for, by the way, out of pocket because they were supposed to pay me back, and then.. by the end of the tour I was like 'I don't wanna be on this label, this is not working for me,' and so luckily my manager was able to negotiate for me to leave and be able to take my masters. So I still have all the masters from that album, and the fans are hungry for it because I've toured with it and I've played a lot of festivals and stuff with those songs so there's a lot of like, you know, live recordings floating around online and everyone's like 'when are these songs coming out!? We want S.L.A.Y., we want Forever 21!!' and like, I do wanna put them out--I just wanna put them out at the right time where it's not just like falling on deaf ears, you know.

 

Little Known Facts with Ilana Levine, Episode 271 -- November 15, 2021

Host: Are there any songs coming out? that you've written that we don't know yet? that you can talk about?

Bonnie: I have... I've been sitting on a whole lot of music for years, honestly, and I was,, right before the quarantine I was a wrap- about to put out an album that I'm very proud of, that I feel like is some of my best work, and then quarantine hit and I was like 'eh, now's not the time,' um, so I'm gearing up to put that out next year and try to figure out how to go about that because, you know, being an independent artist is.. is a full-time job, and I think that nowadays with things like TikTok and social media and stuff there's a lot that artists can do to really take back the power without needing a label, um, but I don't know I'm just-
I have a bunch of music that I'm really excited to put out and.. you'll hear it next year, I promise.  

 

Thoughts?

:cry:


 

It's not happening guys :spy: 

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35 minutes ago, tropicalian said:

i believe her at some point. she made a movie, said she's coming back to songwriting, etc.

i believe her:tanya:

I mean I believe she is making music. I DON'T believe she will release the Epic songs. If anything, it's going to be other stuff.

It doesn't mean I don't want her to drop the Epic songs, it just feels unrealistic at this point. They're essentially a decade old. If all these years was not the time, I don't know if now is the time :cry: 

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Yeah, it's like, the delusional fan of her Epic stuff in me wants to believe we will get those glorious pop anthems professionally remastered and polished, but as someone who's followed this woman's career since 2010 I just can't make myself trust her promises anymore. Sure, the pand3mic has put a lot of projects on hold, but if she really had those songs (and had full ownership of them) since leaving Epic, what was stopping her from dropping the album in 2016, 2017, or 2018? As I said a couple of pages back, the best time for her to drop the album was when she finished making videos for Bombastic. Instead, she put out a bunch of random singles none of which really did anything for her because they're all quite bland and lack her signature sound.

As an artist myself, I get that she wants to reach as many people as possible--especially if she's putting her 'best' material on the line; you can only debut new music once and the fact she's independent might be exacerbating that because if the album's rollout and subsequent performance fail to meet her sky-high expectations she can no longer blame the label for failing her. And given how critical she is of everything she does, it's no wonder we're in 2022 with no album in sight.

I think she needs to have a real look in the mirror and accept the reality of her situation, which is that the general public doesn't really know her and aren't interested in knowing her, but there's a small circle of devoted gheyz who genuinely appreciate and love her work. She should stop dreaming of becoming a viral sensation and instead nurture the niche market that is already there for her. Become the GayPop icon you were always meant to be, Bonnie. Palm tress and pink skies.

 

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