reflection

the i wanna call you demo is a lower key, pretty much all the vocal takes are different from the backtrack performed on yahoo and theres some syncing issues with the lead and background vocals. the production is switched too and the beat is completely different although some things like the guitar sound the same. also its missing the woo adlibs i want it now couldve been a working title since this seems to be a very early rough demo. this one sounds more of a dancey beat driven angle while the one performed on yahoo seems to have been reworked to be more of a summery pop song like american girl. a part of me prays she hits up the album masterer asks for a bounce and just drops the final album as it was intended to be heard the process cant take longer than well 8 years so we coul all shut up and move on but its bonnie mckee so we suffer i guess

group one looks finished to me now. any errors, missing songs or missing info please let me know by replying to this thread and ill add promtly!

hi everyone, huge overhaul and im retiring the solo artist infopost not the group one for now cause itll be too much work to keep it all updated, still so much to add to the group one but i thought id compile a list of some interesting career findings looking through this digitalspy thread in chronological order. very interesting to look back at information that was new 5 years ago with that retrospective. what i found very interesting is how theres more info on their scrapped sessions than the ones that were released, really goes to show how much there really is out there we havent heard😭 Better Together Scrapped debut album + single rollout - 10/09/13: Debut album is expected around December according to Vice President of Epic with a tour December/Early January. They want to give the girls a legit shot at a Top 3 debut with their album and just need a little more time. A new single will be released soon which will either be "Who Are You" or "Better Together". #4 Alleged scrapped song - 15/10/13: I wonder what happened to Warrior. I happened to see them live opening for Cher Lloyd and I thought that was their best moment. Pretty sure they said it was an original planned to be on the EP. #24 Fifth harmony in studio with Miley Cyrus's producers, Better together single scrapped - 23/12/13 It appears there's been a change of plans for the girls. Better Together (song) isn't going to be sent to radio it appears atm. The girls are going back into the studio to record new songs with new producers (Miley's producers have been confirmed). #114 Toby Gad sessions mentioned in December 2013 - Later found out to be the songs 'No Boys Allowed' and 'Better Days', written with Ali Tamposi. Fifth Harmony have had 22 finished songs by January 2014 - 12/01/14 One of the girls' parents said they have 22 songs fully finished and that a huge surprise is coming after their tour with Demi. #117 Better Together sound does not seem to have been scrapped just yet by January 2014 - More sessions with Better Together executive producer - 17/01/14: Julian Bunetta (Better Together Executive Producer) tweeted he is waiting on the girls to arrive back in LA to begin recording. #119 Reflection Appears Fifth Harmony's sound direction is shifting towards what would turn into 'Reflection' by February 2014, a more soulful r&b sound, hinted by sessions booked with The Rascals (Ariana Grande - Yours Truly) [eventually shelved] - 13/02/14: They're soon to hit the studio with The Rascals (Ariana Grande's Honeymoon Avenue). So I'm glad to see them finally heading in the correct direction. #133 Fifth Harmony working on the song Reflection in April 2014 Fifth Harmony perform new songs from Reflection in April 2014. All originals were released and maintained on the tracklist until February 2015 apart from 'Over' - 26/07/14: Setlist: 3. Reflection, 4. New song -Going Nowhere, 5. We Know, 6. New song- Over, 7. BO$$ #449 Fifth Harmony has more sessions with BO$$ crew in July 2014 [shelved] - 18/07/14: The girls are currently back in the studio with Jacob Kasher, Tayla Parx and Ricky Reed(Wallpaper) #402 According to Wikipedia, Reflection was recorded between March 2014 and August 2014 - Though Fifth Harmony still had many recording sessions in studio for the album after August 2014 up until December 2014, including many delays for the album eventually released February 2015, for some reason it appears all (known) sessions after August 2014 were scrapped. Fifth Harmony in studio again with Tommy and Victoria September 2014 (Note: this could be the song 'A Dream' which shares the same credits as We Know) [eventually shelved] - 19/09/14: They are back in the studio again with Tommy and Victoria who are responsible for We Know #577 Fifth Harmony in studio with J.R. Rotem and Eric Hudson October 2014 [eventually shelved] - 07/10/14: - The girls were in the studio with J.R Rotem and Eric Hudson #592 Lauren mentions 'No Way', 2 years before its release! - 9/12/14: Lauren mentioned in an interview that they recorded a song called ’No Way' and it's a mid-tempo that manages to showcase their vocals very well. #914 Fifth Harmony in studio with Diane Warren [shelved] -18/12/14: The girls were in the recording studio last night with Diane Warren. #983 7/27 DJ Flict reveals he is working with Fifth Harmony February 2015 With the first mention of new recording sessions in 6 months, it seems 7/27 started off looking a lot like Reflection [shelved]- 03/05/15: So the girls(Mainly Normani and Dinah) are with Taylor Parks and Harmony Samuels. Looks like they're already starting on 5H2! #2009 Harmony Samuels talks working with Fifth Harmony - 25/08/15: Are you also working with them on other material? Yes! I just started working with them last week for their new album. It’s really different. It’s really fresh. They’ve definitely grown. It’s a little bit more soulful, a little bit more quirky, definitely a little bit more Destiny’s Child-esque, you know what I’m saying? You’re going to hear more of their voices as individuals. Fifth Harmony in studio with Harmony Samuels and The Rascals again [shelved] - 01/10/15: The girls are back in studio and i'm very excited. last night they were working with Harmony Samuels and The Rascals who produced most of Ariana's Yours Truly album, which was a gem!! Harmony also produced IILWAM. #2783 Fifth Harmony in studio with Meghan Trainor and DJ Flict - 1/10/15: Disappointed that the girls are working with DJ flict and Meghan Trainor for 5h2. #2788 Ally Brooke talks in November 2015 about new sessions with Meghan Trainor, including a new song 'Tinderella'. In a Billboard article, Lauren talks aspects of their current sonical focus - 02/10/15: Lauren said they've recorded some dope songs with horns, however, as a group they have decide to also focus a bit more on some slow, soulful songs,(destiny's child vibe) and mature lyrics. #2803 In a turning point for the era, it is revealed Fifth Harmony are working with Max Martin! [shelved] - 02/10/15: The girls are working with Max Martin! #2794 Max Martin and his team allegedly take lead during this period of 7/27 - 02/10/15: According to Jason Lipshutz from Billboard, Max and his team are leading the charge on 5H2!!! #2796 Ally and Dinah spotted at Max Martin's house - 03/10/15: Looking through ally and dinah's snapchat, they were at Max's house. #2816 In October 2015, it is revealed Fifth Harmony were at a writing camp, working with producers Max Martin, Dr. Luke, Mitch Allan [shelved] Lukas Loules, and Jason Evigan [released] - They cut 4 to 5 songs a day. In October 2015, Fifth Harmony describes the sound of the album at this point of the sessions. In a Spin article published October 30th 2015, Dinah talks about Fifth Harmony's new music - She reveals sessions with Stargate and Max Martin. She lists personnell for the album in its current state, including Stargate, Jason Evigan [released], Victoria Monét, Tommy Brown and Mitch Allan [shelved]. She talks writing for the album first time. She reveals 6 songs with Max Martin recorded across multiple recording sessions. She says she could hear Nicki Minaj rapping on one of the 6 Max Martin songs. In November 2015, Justin Tranter talks writing and recording 'Fools Like Us' with Fifth Harmony, OZGO and Oscar Holter in a Spin article - I talked to Dinah Jane the other day and she said you were also back working on the group’s second record too. Is that right? Tranter: For sure. All those girls are so f**king fierce. It blows, because I did “Like Mariah” but I wasn’t in the studio when they cut it. So this song that we just did last week, I was actually there when they cut it and these voices. I mean, these girls are destroyers. Lauren Jauregui talks scrapped ballads from 7/27 - 03/03/16: Lauren told a fan that although ballads were recorded for 7/27, there will be no ballads on the final tracklist. #2969

Through the fire & last laugh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/683416062066425975/868585277621436467/You_Gave_Me_Love.mp3

does anyone have any idea of the fifth harmony song 'you gave me love'?

Always suspicious about LQ snippets that are barely intelligible so this is probably fake. However to my knowledge ’so romance’ is a real song early romance outtake and was being sold alongside ‘ain’t easy’ on this forum and also by the seller of coulda been yours I think the price is $800

A lot of updates (will update thread later) - 2 demos of ain’t easy - 2 demos of could’ve been yours - people talking about having prisoner - so romance (early romance outtake) alleged romance outtakes: Half an Hour , Could've Been Yours , Rock Bottom , Expectation , Saving , Lithium , the list goes on and on this hoe made too many songs for romance Could've Been Yours , Single Rose , Lithium , Bad Kind Of Butterflies OG , are the best romance scraps better than most of the released albumbest scraps from cc1 have already leaked tho besides Tinted Vision , 10/10 grail https://leaked.is/threads/camila-cabello-2021-mass-leak-coming-soon.24842/page-3 (thank you to user ifitaintyou for most of these)

considering her saying she will *make* an album as if she doesnt already have one finished from 2016 and then talks about writing one locked in the house, it looks to be shes completely moved on from those songs and shes writing a new one

Bonnie McKee on her story: 'okay fine ill make an album' https://www.instagram.com/stories/bonniemckee/2562328064761391267/ 98789200_3076558475905906_2032454900868420690_n.mp4

Not sure

No I was listening to the live I wish it was mixed better because it’s such an amazing song and the vocals and drums are too loud but atleast it isn’t a iPhone 6 recording or anything

thank you! yeah I mean we dont know we only have the number 80 Roger told us so I just used what we had. 80 does seem a little extreme cause 10 months is around the time she did 35 for Camila era. maybe it is just 80 songs she wrote in 10 months but still I guess they are Camila songs written for romance in some way. I guess 'had' would be a better phrasing not 'recorded' cause it was never said that way. there doesn't seem to be alot of romance era song leaking either theres only 2 we know of unleaked out there coulda been yours and a unknown title one being traded around right now. and then theres 3 titles from registration run into you loved someone and same thank you lol! it is a little messy cause I did it at 3am but I still think it got the point across

Sorry for the essay got bored at 3am I was interested in trying to have an idea of how much of each Camila era we have since we know how many songs she recorded for each era (sources for song numbers are in OP) For camila era, Ryan seacrest asked her how many songs she has and she said ‘around 35’ I’m not sure whether this means 1. how many songs she recorded for the album officially or 2. how many songs she recorded during the entire era. However my bets are on in this context these are songs recorded specifically for the album, cause if we counted all the songs she released all the leaks including major lazer Jack u and songs like u shaped space and the snippets and titles we know u we would probably end up with more than 35 songs and chances are there’s definately more Camila era unleaked out there we don’t know of. Plus this clip was preceded by camila talking about specifically her album. As we know, 14 songs were released from this 35. 10 in album format and 4 off album singles. For what counts as ‘for the album’ I will not be counting the songs she did with major lazer and Jack u atleast those that have leaked as those were probably intended for their own projects and none of these sessions made it to a mainline/ lead camila release. I was on the edge on whether U shaped space and died should be counted as these were recorded while in fifth harmony and so may or may not be part of ‘Camila’ era. I decided not to use u shaped space cause it was reused in find u again verse which she said was a collection of songs she wrote when she was 15 so probably too far gone to be intended for the album plus it does just sound really old, but we know from died’s metadata the file that leaked is from January 2017 so I decided to count this. This leaves us with Unknown - died, Thinkin bout one, knows me Stargate - be right here, unforgettable, scar tissue, cleopatra Pharell Williams - come when I call The futuristics - curious, witness Frank dukes - must be love Steve mac - the boy This is 12 songs + 14 released = 26/35 Which means if these probabilities are taken as fact we are 9 songs away from having all songs recorded for the album. We know titles like ramallah, the song she did with the dream A as well as pitches from max Martin like god is a woman and Ryan Tedder ain’t easy so maybe we are really close to having all the songs recorded for camila Now for romance, roger gold her manager confirmed she had ‘over 80’ songs in 10 months for the album. This ones a lot easier cause we know all the leaks were intended for the album and 14 songs were released on album with no droplets. For leaks we have Unknown - eyes on you, terrified, thief looks like an angel, taxi Reynolds - not Killin it today Monsters strangers - anyone 14 released + 6 leaks = 20 songs total we have from the romance era, which if the probabilities are taken as fact leaves us with 60 unleaked songs from romance era. We know a few unleaked titles like run into you, loved someone, coulda been yours and same but it doesnt seem we have anywhere near as close to the ratio of camila era and it seems we’ve only heard the tip of the ice berg of romance era. compiled

just heard i wanna fucking call you, loved it, found out the nightmare behind it and the rest of the album and now hate it ? this seems like the real world version of gay hell im so sorry for anyone whos been living in perpetual disappointment and teases since 2013 also apparently i heard SLAY studio this year on some discord call (unknowingly) so i guess thats something to look forward to! is she actually going to release more songs from this or has she fully moved on at this point

aint easy is being sold allegedly for 1000

its registered on BMI as a song written by Pacific and Alex Zinc with Camila listed as the artist. according to insider BOZ Camila never recorded it and it was just a pitched demo for her

the full details are unknown, a snippet was posted by leaks5h which 75% of their leaks came from them. they were this fifth harmony insider/leaker who had a shit load of better together- reflection outtakes as well as info on the group. from the snippet it sounds like Camila recorded it solo as none of the other girls are present in the 1 minute snippet, which is odd as I dont think Camila did recordings on her own until after reflection came out and they only leaked and so are known to have only material recorded between better together and reflection era but of every song each girl did their own solo version from which music execs/ producers spliced together their vocals (confirmed by Dinah in a interview and ally in her book) so it may be that as well. but yeah not many details on this other than Julia's demo leaked which is produced by Jason Evigan who I think worked with the girls during better together era if my memory is good

added soloists categories + most songs. I have to do more research for sure but its looking good so far

ive started adding (most) of fifth harmony (Group) unreleased songs to this post! if im missing any let me know so we can eventually have a full infopost for fifth harmony, more details + soloists to the post coming later

interesting thank you

Will update with the following - she loves control demo (apparently being sold on leakthis) - senorita solo demo (snippet)

updated: I added the songs same old love and prisoner to the 'other' section may also add unknown song that is the lead single and everything we know about it x

actually many insiders have confirmed the lead single of CC3 will be coming in the first half of this year and that its a feature that is unless plans change

wow interesting lol. I hope its true. ill add it to the thread soon under 'other' as a unconfirmed rumour