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It's hard to say isn't it? I honestly don't think she would have ever been able to break through into pop music if she hadn't worked with Luke in the first place, but I do think at this point she could probably drop him and go down some kind of PC Music route and still have success. Imo the collabs she's done without Luke as a writer/producer are just as good as the ones with him.

I think that's a fair point! I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt and say she might not have known all the details, but if I was her I probably would have released an edited version of that song by now. On the flip side, Gaga still has Jewels N Drugs up on streaming and we all know about the literal dozens of accusations against TI so I find it hard to get angry at one and not the other I don't understand why you're giving Mariah a free pass? She worked on the remix of this song knowing full well who it was produced by and where the money from the remix would be going, regardless of what she actually thinks about the case. There's literally no difference between what she did and what Kim did, other than the fact that when Kim did it she was a trending topic on Twitter for days and when Mariah did it...crickets. Again, it's the double standards that are exhausting to deal with here

The Weeknd and Mariah aren't on your radar and doesn't have fame? What rock have you been living under girl?

The 2008 Gaga wig We have no choice but to stan!

I do remember you posting these somewhere but it's sad to be reading it again. Again, I really don't support Luke and I try to avoid streaming his music (at least legally ) but that doesn't mean I feel comfortable calling him a rapist with 100% certainty and cancelling not only him but anyone who chooses to work with him. For me as a Kim stan it's incredibly annoying to see this brought up as an attack on her anytime she does literally anything in her career. Her entire last EP drop was ruined by people talking about this when she's already made her stance on it clear and I don't think it's an unfair one. The worst part is that when literally anyone other than her works with him (or the hundreds of other gross people in Hollywood like Cardi B, Chris Brown or even Jay-Z who literally tried to stab someone to death) they always get a free pass, and it only ends up being the trans girl suffering. Still love you boo but I appreciate the healthy debate

Me with Sky, Lolene, Bonnie, Neon, Kerli...The list goes on and on There's only so many pushbacks we can handle before we give up entirely, and at this point even if they did release something I wouldn't care because all the hype is gone I used to stan DISGASTING too but her attitude and the literal hundreds of physical abuse, animal abuse, racist comments, sexist comments and homophobic comments are just too bad for me to overlook

Not being 100% certain that Dr Luke is a rapist does not equal being 100% certain that Kesha is lying. Actually, it's pretty much the only reasonable viewpoint to have given that literally nobody other than Kesha and Luke know the truth of the situation, and two different judges have ruled that 1. there's no evidence that Luke raped Kesha and 2. she (according to them) actually defamed him by stating that he did. I don't support Luke's music (partially because of Kesha and partially because of what I've heard about him from other pop girls) and I don't believe Kesha is lying, but it would also be incredibly stupid for me to make ANY judgement calls about a situation I know literally nothing about. If a judge and jury has been presented with all the facts on multiple occasions and Luke has been acquitted multiple times, who are we to make any judgement calls to the contrary when we have maybe 1% per cent of the information the judge did? This whole thing is an incredibly slippery slope and as I've mentioned several times, I think it's gross that y'all pick and choose who you want to be offended by and let other people (like confirmed rapist Cardi B!!!!!!) off the hook. If we're going to be cancelling anyone who's ever worked with someone just accused of doing something wrong, not only would most people be cancelled, but even Kesha herself would be cancelled for working with Pitbull and his "she says she won't but I bet she will" line. Y'all need to decide if everyone's getting cancelled or no one is, because the picking and choosing of who you want to be offended by ain't it

Gaga I started losing interest around the Joanne/ASIB era when she started retroactively changing the narrative from "I was born this way" to "I was playing a character the entire team and now this is the real me". Really didn't help that her music started suffering around that time too, and she seemed to stop writing the majority of her own songs as well. Still, Joanne was at least an album that kind of took a risk so I was still hanging on up until Chromatica. Then she just started releasing generic dance-pop with no real risk-taking at all, and she barely even bothered to promote it. It's pretty clear to me imo that she now cares more about her makeup line, acting career and Joe Biden than she does her music, and that really ain't something that I want from someone who's meant to be a "singer" I also lost interest in Nicki and Rihanna but this post is too long already so I'll leave it there

I don't believe that for one second from Doja given her ongoing support of him both in her music and in her interviews, but let's give her the benefit of the doubt if you want But Kim never said that Kesha is lying. Her quote was: Then when people criticised her for saying that, she posted this on Twitter: All she's really saying is that she wouldn't work with someone that she knows for sure is an abuser, which is pretty sensible imo? Definitely better than working with confirmed rapist Cardi B and yet all of our faves seem to be doing that Does it matter? She still knew it was produced by him, he probably produced her vocals and he's still making the same amount of money he would regardless of whether she knew. If people are angry about people streaming Kim and giving money to Dr Luke, they should be equally angry about people streaming J Lo, or for that matter any Kesha song pre-Praying

Latto is a newly launched rapper whose new single 'Big Energy' has already hit #11 on the Hot 100. Like Doja Cat, The Weeknd, Azealia Banks and Jennifer Lopez before her, Latto worked with the man accused of raping Kesha Dr Luke on the single. Mariah Carey recently jumped on the remix and expressed her love for Luke on a recent Instagram live. None of these people have been cancelled or even properly criticised, and yet up-and-coming trans superstar Kim Petras gets non-stop hate comments online about working with Luke. What's your opinion on this shocking double standard and why is it that Kim's career has been essentially ended by working with Luke while any POC who works with him seems to get a free pass? @Capsule

I wish I could help but I can't think of anything that's purely house! Good luck though

Just discovered this absolute gem The Japanese version is also amazing

This must be ranking high on some particularly weird Google search

When she got heated around the 1:30 mark The old Wendy is back! I still feel like there's more going on than we've been let in on but I'm #TeamWendy until proven otherwise

Wendy without a wig is like Ellen without a suit

And why didn't she want to be on video? The whole thing is just so shady to me

There's something really weird going on here. I'm getting Britney 2007 vibes

Making this thread to share some of our least popular or shared opinions about our favourite pop girls Bring on your angry emojies Dua Lipa has some good songs but less personality/presence than a wet napkin, which makes everything she does boring Gaga's public persona has been fake and intolerable ever since ASIB Taylor Swift isn't a nice person Rita, Charli, Marina and some of the other UK girls should be bigger but US audiences don't like them because of where they're from

I mean, don't get toooo jealous of gay relationships There's a lot of shallowness, bitchiness and to be completely honest mental illness (understandably) in the gay community which makes dating really difficult imo. I'm 27 and I've never even had an actual boyfriend even though I think I'm like a 8/10 in personality and a 7/10 in looks But it's great you and your partner are in such a good place! How did the conversation to open your relationship up with your wife go? I feel that would be such a hard thing to even bring up Omg, I never knew that about Home and Away It's a shame to hear about Neighbours being cancelled but I feel like they were getting most of their viewership from England and when that went down there just wasn't enough interest locally to keep it going Still surprising though as I thought they would have had a big enough fanbase internationally to at least move to streaming or something like some of the US soaps have done The weird thing in Australia is I only hear "wog" used to refer to like second or third generation European people? Like Italian, Greek or other Mediterranean-esque looking people will be referred to as wogs and call themselves that too but I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing or even related to the whole gollywog phenomenon 🤔 Not really sure where that whole trend came from though! Dying to go on a ski trip in Switzerland 😭😭😭 It looks incredibly beautiful in the snow, just like something out of a fairytale I've always wanted to visit Boston! I feel like there's a lot of culture there even if a lot of it is still that stereotypically masc straight dude vibe. Plus the accent is so much fun Do you still speak like a Bostonite?

At least you remembered Lolas Dancing Drum was also a bop!

Not you paying Sexy People dust

Feel like I got to know you so much better with this post And I relate on a spiritual level to "with no real (humility full-effect) special attributes, motivation, privilege, accomplishments, or interests" At least it sounds like you have a solid relationship though! I think there's definitely still prejudice against non-monogamous relationships, but it seems a lot more accepted amongst people of younger generations. Of course, if you're gay it's pretty much expected at this point that you be fucking a different guy every night even if you are married So maybe you just need to make more gay friends who get your lifestyle and who'll probably try and suck your dick every time you get drunk

But what is she taking anyone to court for in the first place? I know she said in that Insta video she was looking forward to going back to NY and working on the show so maybe this cancellation wasn't something she ever wanted

Agreed. All the LM girls have great voices but I don't think a single one of them has enough X Factor (ironically) to actually pull off solo careers

For what? If anything wouldn't she be taking the network to court?